TV Talk: Fringe- The End of All Things

TV Talk: There will be spoilers about the featured episode and previous episodes. I will not, however, discuss spoilers from the shows source material (even though I really want to). However, I might compare the source material and show only after that event has happened, or clearly won’t happen. TV Talk isn’t really a recap, or an official review. It’s how I feel about the episode and show in general. Just me, talking about TV. 

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Fringe- Season 4 Episode 14 “The End of All Things”

Following the “Holy Shit” ending from last week, I expected this dramatically titled episode “The End of All Things” to blow my mind. But it didn’t. I enjoyed it, for the most part, but allow me to explain.

After many years, we finally find out who the observers are. I should be more excited about this than actually I am. But their big reveal was a bit predictable, or dare I say, safe.

The observers are super-evolved humans from a (possible) future timeline. Which I think was the most common and reasonable theory that has been adopted by many Cortexifans since season one. But that was pretty much the only “new” news that September told us. Even Peter gets frustrated and tells him, “Walter already told me this.”

Peter finds out he is a daddy, well, he was a daddy. Baby Henry wasn’t supposed to happen, or at least not with Fauxlivia, and that’s why Peter and Henry had to be erased. But like most people in Fringe, no one stays erased (or dead) forever.

I’m pretty sure Henry will come back. Even though I don’t believe Peter is projecting his thoughts onto Olivia like Walter and Lincoln believe, if we go with that theory then perhaps baby Henry will magically reappear into existence because Peter wants him back. Or maybe the right Olivia will get pregnant?

I felt like this scene would have been the perfect time to tell us how exactly Peter was able to return. Where was he when he “didn’t exist”? What was up with all those flashes of Peter that Walter was seeing in the beginning of the season? Hopefully we’ll find out those answers this season. I felt like the Peter/September mind-meld should have been one of the highlights of the season, but it fell short or to quote a friend, it was “blunted”.

Despite my feelings on the observer reveal. I did enjoy this episode. The pacing was fast, especially forFringe. Of course, in typical Bad Robot style we get one question answered, only to have several more questions emerge. Which Nina is working with Jones? Is it original Nina, Alt-Nina, shape-shifter Nina, or something completely different?

One of my favorite scenes was when Olivia goes all Jean Gray meets Carrie and used her powers to free herself from DRJ and save Peter. I did my best to ignore Olivia’s sorry excuse of a seizure (and by ignore I mean yell at my TV). We get yet another surprise, Jones can’t die, or at least easily. Pretty cool. But why didn’t Liv shoot the portal generator instead of DRJ? She could have either sliced and diced him (again) or trapped him. But then I guess we wouldn’t know that a bullet to his throat is harmless.

I wanted to strangle Peter when he tells Olivia for the umpteenth time, “You are not my Olivia”. And then it “suddenly” begins to rain…

TV Talk: Fringe- A Better Human Being

TV Talk: There will be spoilers about the featured episode and previous episodes. I will not, however, discuss spoilers from the shows source material (even though I really want to). However, I might compare the source material and show only after that event has happened, or clearly won’t happen. TV Talk isn’t really a recap, or an official review. It’s how I feel about the episode and show in general. Just me, talking about TV. 

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Oh my, where to start. ‘A Better Human Being’ had me on an emotional rollercoaster. I felt the first half of season was very up and down. We would only get little doses of the major story arch, but mostly they focused on the case of the week.

The last few episodes are finally discussing what we really care about. Will everyone be drinking boxed wine in the future?! And also, who the observers are, is Peter where he’s supposed to be, and what’s up with Nina drugging Olivia with cortexiphan?

Peter has annoyed me with his whole, “I need to go back to my timeline” thing. My theory is, I think he is in his timeline, it’s just that Olivia and everyone elses’ memory hasn’t snapped back yet. So this episode Olivia is finally starts getting major flashbacks, and my emotions are all over the place! I’m so excited she’s starting to remember, but poor Peter is too scared to accept it. He doesn’t want another Fauxlivia baby mama drama on his hands (and neither do I). When they held hands, my poor heart just couldn’t take it. I think that scene expressed more than when they kissed in the car.

Poor Walter is jealous that Olivia is getting flashbacks about Peter and he isn’t. And I can’t be mad at him for that. He also finds out about Olivia and the cortexiphan in her body and goes with Lincoln (yay he’s back!) to talk to Nina. The bomb is dropped and they find out Nina was lying. Then they drop another bomb and not only is Olivia kidnapped, Nina is kidnapped too! What the what?!

So is the Nina kidnapped in the basement “our Nina”? Is the bad Nina a shape-shifter or a FuaxNina from the red ‘verse? Maybe they perfected shape-shifters so they don’t have to kill them and identical genetically. They must be keeping Nina alive for some important reason. Is AltBroyles a baddie too? Does Olivia really have to die? Can she rewrite fate? When will we find out about who the observers are? What is Phase 2? What is Jones master plan? Why was the glyph of the episode “HENRY” the cab driver from the red ‘verse? So many questions!

The TV Geeks Podcast- Episode 002 #whereischarliefrancis

Okay, well of course we all miss us some Peter Bishop but we really want to know where Charlie Francis is. (It’s an insider, listen to this episode to find out.) This was actually a really fun podcast to record, probably because Fringe is back, but Peter isn’t… well sort of.

In this episode we talk about Fringe episode 401 “Neither Here Nor There” and the new comic Beyond the Fringe written by Pacey, I mean Peter, I mean Joshua Jackson. Contact us at thetvgeekspodcast[at]gmail.com to send in written, audio feedback or LOLcats!

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The TV Geeks Podcast Episode 001- Intro and Fringe 21 Questions

YAY! Check out The TV Geeks very first podcast! In this episode we give a little introduction to the podcast and what Terence and I will be talking about, which is basically good ass genre TV such as Fringe, The Walking Dead, Doctor Who, etc. and we go over 21 questions for the upcoming season of Fringe. Contact us at thetvgeekspodcast[at]gmail.com to send in written or audio feedback or LOLcats!

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21 Questions for Fringe Season 4

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING POST CONTAINS MAJOR SEASON 3 SPOILERS FOR FRINGE. 
Like my fellow Fringe fans, the season 3 finale made my brain melt. Here is my attempt to scoop up the pieces and make sense of the finale and theorize about what we may see in season 4. I don’t think any other show has made me ask as many questions as Fringe, and I think that is absolutely wonderful. I have so many questions and theories I fear I may explode if I didn’t get them out. Let’s have some Fringe fun in the comments section and explore some of these questions and I’d love to hear your own! Especially if you have any answers to these 21 questions.

    1. Where is Peter Bishop?
    2. Why did Peter have to be erased from everyone’s memories? We get he served his purpose, but was making him not exist anymore necessary? Did the observers make Peter not exist? Who has that kind of power?
    3. If Peter doesn’t exist anymore what happens to everything connected with him? Would the first rift between the two universes never have happened? 
    4. Assuming that the red and blue universe Fringe crew still has to fix their crumbling worlds sans Doomsday machine, is the first rift/crossing over to the red and blue universe a fixed moment in time, something that must always occur (like fate or destiny)?
    5. If Peter doesn’t exist anymore what happens to Fauxlivias baby?
    6. What are the observers purpose?
    7. Will Peter become an Observer?
    8. Am I the only one who is chalking up Peter’s consciousness being sent to the future AND the machine being sent back to the past one big old timey wimey thing I may never fully understand?
    9. How will the machine work without Peter? What will its purpose be now?
    10. Why does the machine exists in the red universe also?
    11. Who are the first people?  
    12. If Peter merged only Ellis Island, how does that affect both universes? Can people from the outside enter? Can they go back and forth from the red to the blue verse?
    13. Will we see a third universe in season 4?
    14. Does a third universe already exist?
    15. Just theorizing from the super short teasers trailer for season 4, perhaps Peter trapped between in some sort of limbo between blue and red verse?
    16. What ever happened to ZFT? We didn’t hear much about them in season 3. 
    17. What was up with the cylinder from season 1?  Who made it, what is its purpose?
    18. Who did John Scott work for? Will we ever find out? 
    19. What happened to that FBI agent from the beginning of season 2? I was kind of interested in her Biblical theories.
    20. In episode “Lysergic Acid Diethylamide” (S4E19) where they went into Olivia’s mind, who was the man in the zeppelin, the man Olivia said she thinks will kill her?
    21. Am I the only one who felt the reveal of who Sam Weiss was underwhelming? I hope there is more to Sam Weiss than what we have learned so far. And what’s up with him telling Olivia he’s taller and older than he looks and doesn’t quite remember his childhood?